# Stacking Anchors (Ring of Power) — Full 4-MAT Presentation Script **Presenter:** Dustin **Total Time:** ~20 minutes (plus ~15 min demo + exercise) **Has Demo:** Yes (Ring of Power) --- *Last updated: March 21, 2026 at 12:00 PM MT* ## 1. WHY — Motivation (~3-4 min) *Goal: Short motivational opener. Why should the audience care about stacking anchors? Pull them in emotionally before teaching anything.* --- Have you ever had one of those days where you just get knocked completely off center? Maybe somebody says something to you, or you get some bad news, or you walk into a situation and you can feel all of your confidence, all of your energy, all of your power just drain right out of you? Everyone has experienced that moment -- all of us know what it feels like. And in that moment -- right there in that moment -- you think to yourself: I wish I had a reset button. I wish I could just push something and get back to being *me*. The real me. The powerful me. The one who handles things. Now here is what is interesting. We have already learned that we can anchor a single state. We know how to take a moment of motivation or confidence, link it to a stimulus, and fire it later. And that is powerful. But as you begin to think about this more deeply, let me ask you something. Think about the most capable, most resilient person you have ever met. Think about someone who just seems unshakeable -- no matter what life throws at them, they stay resourceful, they stay positive, they stay in control of their state. Is that person running on one emotion? Is it just confidence? Is it just motivation? No. It is never just one thing. Because when you really observe those people, you notice they have this ability to draw on a whole constellation of powerful states -- confidence, love, energy, humor, determination -- all at once. And that means they have access to something deeper than a single resource. It is not a single note. It is a full chord. > [Personal story placeholder: A time when a single anchored state was not enough -- when the situation demanded more than just "motivated" or just "confident" -- and what it felt like to be overwhelmed because one resource could not carry the load.] So what if I told you there is a way to take all of your most powerful states -- every time you have ever felt unstoppable, every time you have ever felt deeply loved, every time you have laughed so hard you could not breathe, every time you have felt like you could have anything you wanted -- and stack them all together into one place? One button. One anchor. So that when you need it, you do not get just one resource back. You get all of them. At once. You are already starting to see how useful that would be, aren't you? Think about what that would mean for your clients. One can begin to notice the possibilities -- the salesperson who needs more than just motivation, the leader walking into a difficult conversation, *you*, right before you step on stage to present. Whether you use this for yourself first or go straight to using it with clients, the impact is immediate. What I am going to teach you is called **stacking anchors**. And the technique we are going to do together is called the **Ring of Power**. It takes everything you have already learned about anchoring and multiplies it. And by the end of this session, every one of you is going to have one. --- ## 2. WHAT — Information (~15 min) *Goal: The main teaching block. What stacking anchors IS -- theory, process, how it builds on single anchoring, the Ring of Power concept. Pull heavily from Gina's transcripts. Use "I" language.* --- ### Review: The Foundation of Anchoring Before I get into stacking, I want to make sure the foundation is solid. We already know that anchoring is a process of stimulus response. Anytime a person is in an associated intense state, if at the peak of that experience a specific stimulus is applied, the two get linked neurologically. That is the definition. > "Anchoring can assist you in gaining access to past states and linking the past state to the present and therefore to the future." I know the five keys to anchoring -- the iTURN mnemonic. Intensity of the experience. Timing -- using precision anchoring to get the anchor on as soon as I see a state change and holding it through the peak. Uniqueness of the location so the anchor does not get diluted. Replication of the stimulus. And the number of times I build it. And I know the generalized procedure -- RACE. Recall a past vivid experience. Anchor the specific stimulus at the peak. Change or break the state. Evoke the state by firing the anchor. > "So you hold the anchor when you're building it for five to fifteen seconds to really make sure it gets linked neurologically. But when you fire an anchor it should just be like a button, and that should fire off the response." That is a single anchor. One state, one stimulus. And a single anchor is useful, but as Gina says: > "Not very useful, really. I mean, unless there's a specific state that you want." Where it gets truly powerful is when I start stacking. --- ### What Is Stacking? Stacking an anchor means I put one state on top of another, on top of another, on top of another, all in the same place. > "Stacking an anchor means you put one anchor on one state on top of another state, on top of another state, on top of another state, on top of another state." The states can be the same or different. That is an important distinction because it determines which technique I am using. In a resource anchor, I stack *different* powerful states together to build a broad web of resourcefulness. In chaining anchors, where I am building each link of the chain, the states I use to stack each individual anchor should be the *same* -- four instances of procrastination stacked together, four instances of irritation stacked together -- so each link is strong on its own. > "Now it doesn't have to be the same state. It can be different states as in the case of resource anchors. There can be same states as in the case of chaining anchors or collapse anchors." Here is one key difference between stacking and other anchoring procedures: when I am stacking, I do not need to break state between each state I add. > "When you're stacking, you don't necessarily have to break state in between because the whole purpose is to stack one on top of the other, on top of the other. So it's okay if they get mushed together." That is different from chaining anchors, where I absolutely need to break state between each link in the chain so they do not blend. But with stacking, the blending is the whole point. I want all those states piling on top of each other, building intensity, creating something bigger than any one state alone. > "The more states you stack in the same place, the anchor gets more powerful." Think of it this way. A single anchor is a single thread. It can hold something, but it is thin. Every time I stack another state in the same location, I am adding another thread. And eventually I have a rope. That is what stacking does -- it builds a web of positive, resourceful states all linked to one stimulus. --- ### The Resource Anchor: Stacking Different States The most valuable application of stacking is what we call a resource anchor. A resource anchor is built by stacking four or five different powerful states, one on top of the other, all in the same place. > "A resource anchor is exactly that. It's like that button that contains all your resourceful states in one place. So if you get knocked off center in life, if something happens, or something negative happens, or you just get the rug pulled out from underneath you, it's useful to have a resource anchor to be able to bring you back into a coherent state where you have all your resources and you're in a state that's positive and resourceful." The states I recommend for a resource anchor are: a time when I felt totally powerful. A time when I felt totally loved. A time when I felt like I could have whatever I wanted -- I could have it all. A time when I felt really energetic, just busting with energy. A time when I fell down laughing. And a time when I felt totally confident. > "Now falling down laughing is an important state because it's a very powerful state for everyone. And so I always recommend you put falling down laughing in the resource anchor for your client always." Falling down laughing is almost universally accessible and it produces an incredibly strong physiological response. It is one of the most powerful states to include. Now, when I am building a resource anchor, the process is the same state elicitation script every time. I use the same language for each state: > "Can you remember a time when you were totally powerful? Can you remember a specific time? As you go back to that time now, go right back to that time, float down into your body, see what you saw, hear what you heard and really feel the feeling of being totally powerful." And then without pausing -- without breaking state -- I move right into the next one: > "Without even pausing you move into the next state. Can you remember a time when you felt totally loved? Can you remember a specific time? As you go back to that time now, go right back to that time, float down into your body, see what you saw, hear what you heard and really feel the feeling of being totally loved." I keep rolling. Powerful, loved, could have it all, energetic, falling down laughing, confident. One on top of the other on top of the other. And the whole time, I am watching -- using my sensory acuity -- because I still need to get that anchor on as soon as I see the state change and hold it through the peak. > "As soon as you see a state change in their physiology, get that anchor on and it'll be about five to fifteen seconds and hold it, hold it, hold it, while you see them go through the peak and then you'll see them come out of the state and then you get the anchor off. Stack, stack, stack. And that's resource anchoring." --- ### Precision Anchoring Within Stacking This is where the practitioner skill really matters. Even though I am stacking and I am not breaking state between states, I still need precision anchoring for each individual state I add. My sensory acuity has to be dialed in. I am watching for skin color changes, breathing shifts, changes in muscle tension -- all the physiological indicators that tell me the person has entered the state. > "You need to be able to identify when the state starts to change. Which means you've got to be watching the person who you're anchoring. Because as soon as your sensory acuity indicates that the state is changing into the desired state, you've got to get that anchor on." And here is a tip that makes a real difference: as the practitioner, I get into the state myself while I am eliciting it from my client. If I am asking someone to remember a time they felt totally powerful, I go there too. I am in rapport with this person, so my state is going to influence their state. It builds the intensity. > "As the practitioner, you yourself want to get into the state while you're anchoring the state in your client because you're in rapport, so that's going to help build the intensity of the state." I also need to make sure my client can actually access each state I am asking for. If I say "remember a time when you felt totally powerful" and they say "I don't know if I've ever felt totally powerful," then I adapt. Maybe I use totally confident instead. The states need to be real, vivid, and accessible. > "You got to make sure the client does have access to a past vivid state." --- ### The Ring of Power: Stacking Anchors Spatially Now, everything I have just described about stacking can be done kinesthetically -- on a knuckle, on an earlobe, anywhere unique. But there is another way to do it that is especially fun and powerful, and that is the Ring of Power. The Ring of Power is a spatial anchor. Instead of stacking states onto a knuckle, I stack them into an imagined circle on the floor -- about two feet in diameter -- right in front of me. > "So the process is really to essentially anchor a number of positive states to an imagined circle on the floor. So imagine a Ring of Power in front of you as a circle, right, about two feet in diameter." In successful people, we often observe that they are generally in control of their state no matter what the external circumstances are. The Ring of Power is a way to install that kind of state control. Here is how it works: I imagine the ring in front of me. I might visualize it glowing, on fire like a circus ring. > "What I do is I imagine it maybe it's on fire like a ring in a circus, glowing brightly like a flame of fire, a two foot ring or a circle right in front of me." Then I recall a powerful state -- say totally motivated. I go back to that time, float down into my body, see what I saw, hear what I heard, really feel the feelings. And when I have got that state fully associated, I step into the ring. I stand there in that state, breathing it, feeling it. And when the state begins to subside, I step out. > "Remember a time when you were totally motivated. Remember a specific time. Go right back to that time, float down into your body, see what you saw. Remember what you heard and really feel the feelings of being totally motivated. When you've got that, go ahead and step into the Ring of Power." Then I do the same thing with the next state. Totally powerful. Step in when I have got it, step out when it subsides. Then totally loved. Step in, step out. Then a time when I could have whatever I wanted. Then totally energetic. Then falling down laughing. Then totally confident. One after another, stacking them all into that same circle on the floor. > "And then you just add additional powerful states that way. And you just keep doing that until you have a powerful Ring of Power." The beauty of the spatial anchor is that I can test it immediately. After I have stacked all those states, I just step into the ring and feel what happens. All of those states fire at once. Powerful, loved, having it all, energetic, laughing, confident -- all of it hits at the same time. --- ### Making the Ring Portable Here is the part that makes this really practical for daily life. Once the Ring of Power is built and tested, I can take it with me. > "Just take it and shrink it down and put it on one of your fingers. Just take it and shrink it down right there and put it on one of your fingers. And you can leave it there like an anchor or you can put it on your ear or you can put it in between your knuckles." So I imagine picking up that two-foot circle, shrinking it down, and placing it on a finger like a ring. Now it is portable. And whenever I need it, I take it off my finger, place it on the ground, expand it back to two feet, and step right into it. > "All you got to do when you need it is take it off your finger, put it on the ground, make it two feet diameter, once again, step right into it." That is the Ring of Power. It is stacking anchors applied spatially, and it gives a person a portable, self-activated resource anchor they can use anywhere. --- ### Building and Maintaining the Anchor Over Time One more critical point about stacking anchors -- whether it is a knuckle-based resource anchor or a Ring of Power -- the anchor needs to be built over time to become truly strong. A single session creates the initial neural network, but neurons that fire together wire together. The more I reinforce it, the stronger it gets. > "If you really want this to become something that you're going to use or something that you're going to be good at building for your clients, you need to keep building on that resource anchor." The way to build it is simple: whenever something good happens in life, I fire the anchor and hold it. If I am at a comedy show and something hilarious happens, I push the anchor and hold it while I am in that state. If I just nailed a presentation and I am feeling confident and powerful, I push and hold. I keep adding to it. > "When things go well in life, just push and hold while they're going well. If you're at a comedy club or something hilarious happens, just remember to push and hold. That's to build it." And then when I need it -- when I get knocked off center, when somebody takes a swipe at me, when I lose my resources -- I just tap it. A quick fire. And all those resources come flooding back. > "Down the road if somebody just takes a swipe at you or you just get knocked off your center, just tap it to bring it back up. It's like a reset button. It's literally a reset button." So I build it by holding, and I use it by tapping. Build by holding, use by tapping. That is the maintenance protocol for any stacked anchor. --- ### Stacking in Other Anchoring Techniques Before I wrap up the teaching, I want to be clear about how stacking fits into the broader anchoring toolkit. Stacking is not its own standalone technique -- it is a component that shows up in multiple techniques. In a **resource anchor**, I stack different states in the same place to build a broad web of resourcefulness. That is what we just covered. In **collapse anchors**, I use a stacked resource anchor on one side and anchor the negative state on the other. The resource anchor needs to be significantly more powerful than the negative state so it can overwhelm it -- and stacking is what makes it that powerful. > "So what that does is when life kind of throws you off, somebody says something to you, and you just kind of just lose your resources, the theory is that when this anchor is powerful, you should be able to quickly tap the anchor and feel those feelings." In **chaining anchors**, I stack multiple instances of the *same* state at each link in the chain. If I am chaining from procrastination to irritation to excitement to motivation, I stack four instances of procrastination in one place, four instances of irritation in another, four instances of excitement in another, and four instances of motivation in another. Each link is strong because it is stacked. Then I chain them together. So stacking is the technique that makes all the other anchoring techniques powerful. It is the engine underneath everything. --- ## 3. HOW — Exercise (placeholder) *Goal: Brief setup for demo and exercise. Use "you" language.* --- Alright, so now you understand what stacking anchors is and why it is so powerful. Let me show you what it looks like. **Demo goes here.** *(Ring of Power demo -- walk a volunteer through the full process: imagine the ring, stack 5-7 states by stepping in and out, test the ring, then shrink it down and place it on a finger.)* Now it is your turn. You are going to build your own Ring of Power. Stand up and find a spot where you have a couple of feet of space in front of you. Imagine your ring on the floor -- two feet in diameter, glowing, on fire, whatever makes it vivid for you. You are going to step through these states one at a time. For each one, recall the state fully -- go back to a specific time, float down into your body, see what you saw, hear what you heard, feel the feelings. When you have got it, step into the ring. When it subsides, step out. Then move to the next state. The states: totally motivated, totally powerful, totally loved, could have whatever you wanted, totally energetic, fell down laughing, totally confident. After you have stacked all of them, step into the ring one more time and feel the full effect. Then shrink it down and put it on your finger. If you want to add more states beyond the seven, go for it. The more you stack, the more powerful it becomes. **Exercise goes here.** --- ## 4. WHAT IF — Future Pace (placeholder) *Goal: Self-discovery. Three questions.* --- **1. What questions do you have?** **2. What did you learn?** **3. What do I need to know?** --- **Word Count:** 3,410 words | **Estimated Talk Time:** ~24 minutes (at ~140 words/min medium pace)